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Duration: 06:40 minutes Upload Time: 2007-11-28 23:15:28 User: pyrrho314 :::: Favorites :::: Top Videos of Day |
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Description: one of what will be a series of possibly redundant rants... This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License |
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| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-12-02 20:26:12 seems like you just defined it... you mean it has no clear boundaries... correct? on that I agree, we are all connected. The wave is forces passing through the ocean, as are we forces passing though material. There is no "it" in the sense of absolute boundaries, but so? Who needs that sort of boundary? There is no essence, no need for a container for it. __________________________________________________ | |
| Will1471987 ::: Favorites 2007-12-02 19:54:06 argggh! a wave isn't even defined, it's force passing through particles, when it's here its not even composed of the same particles as when its a few feet away. Its not defined. where does a wave end or begin? At some imaginary zero line halfway between peak and trough? Fraid not. So its part of the ocean, obviosly not the whole ocean. But it's not an "it" really excpet very relatively, its the behavior of the ocean. __________________________________________________ | |
| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-12-02 05:37:01 of course there is a difference... the ocean includes all waves, a single wave, only itself. __________________________________________________ | |
| Will1471987 ::: Favorites 2007-12-01 21:56:59 But would you think of a wave as a separate thing? does "a wave" have any inherent difference from "the ocean"? Wouldn't it be crazy for a wave to think it could conquer the ocean or even other waves? You're no more separate from the rest of everything in a basic sense than a wave is from the ocean. In fact a wave as a separate thing simply doesn't make sense. __________________________________________________ | |
| Will1471987 ::: Favorites 2007-12-01 21:40:37 By the way that was me, Will1471987, that cambridge English accent message. I didn't realize I was signed into my girlfriend's account. __________________________________________________ | |
| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-12-01 20:07:19 fine, in the paradoxical sense, it affirms the ego, that is the sense I support. The question for a mortal mind is do you ponder yourself as one, undifferentiated, no, you realize that, and experience subject. __________________________________________________ | |
| Rosemary2773 ::: Favorites 2007-12-01 18:38:32 My dear fellow, how WRONG you are! (imagine this message being spoken in an english accent like some Cambridge professor). I'm afraid you've got things quite reVERSED. But I dare say I shant convince you by merely restating my views, so I may as well give up trying. But I did wish to note that your "individuality" is not lost if you return to oneness with the cosmos, as your essence is, indeed an idispensable part of all that exists. Paradoxical perhaps, but quite true nevertheless. __________________________________________________ | |
| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-11-30 19:46:35 thing is, I don't believe in the eternal either. The eternal is unreal, only the temporary, the changing... and mortal is real. __________________________________________________ | |
| Will1471987 ::: Favorites 2007-11-30 18:38:52 fuck Its getting all fucked up, this comment is spose to follow the one down there, and I sent the other one twice cuz i tried to copy it or something, aw screw it. __________________________________________________ | |
| Will1471987 ::: Favorites 2007-11-30 18:36:24 I didn't like it at first either, but then again, if only the eternal is real, then how can illusions (yes, duality, or INDIVIduality is a genuine illusion, with all that implies) really be what your goal is? __________________________________________________ | |
| Will1471987 ::: Favorites 2007-11-30 18:31:41 I didn't like it at first either, but then again, if only the eternal is real, then how can illusions (yes, duality, or INDIVIduality is a genuine illusion, with all that implies) really be what your goal is? Radical, but all of this just don't even exist. Or DOES IT? mouhahahahahahahaaaaa! __________________________________________________ | |
| Will1471987 ::: Favorites 2007-11-30 18:28:18 If you look closely you can see that it MUST give rise to these things. Evolution, growth, all that is fine but remember that all things that grow, at least if you're speaking of the physical plane, die. There's a whole other level on which none of this has any meaning because all these forms and progressions are only transitory -thus-illusory. __________________________________________________ | |
| Will1471987 ::: Favorites 2007-11-30 18:17:42 I used to think like that. Thats so different from how I'm thinking now though. Hmmmm, which is it? Your ego will try to say that its individuality is glory. However the ego's world is also what gives rise to competition, hate, fear and so on. It even gives rise to the illusion of death (for your ego, at least as body, is doomed to die). __________________________________________________ | |
| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-11-30 16:35:34 to remove the ego is not a good thing, we are not to run from the pain of living but overcome it until we see, wait... that. is. not. pain. but growth. __________________________________________________ | |
| pyrrho314 ::: Favorites 2007-11-30 15:58:52 oneness is great, at one scale, it's also of little use after realized... we decompose into parts and glorious individuality. Individuation has been the goal of the oneness, and now achieved, should not be discarded. Some people lose track of it and must remember, but them after remember their individuation as well. __________________________________________________ | |
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